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A dialogue with JC | I had no intention of taking up a job after retirement, but this was different: Ajit Singh

At a time when corruption and match fixing are becoming rampant in cricket, BCCI has appointed former DGP of Rajasthan Ajit Singh as head of its Anti-Corruption Unit. DNA Editor Jagdeesh Chandra enters into a dialogue with the former top cop to know about his new role and responsibilities

A dialogue with JC | I had no intention of taking up a job after retirement, but this was different: Ajit Singh
Jagdeesh Chandra and Ajit Singh

Q. Why did you choose IPS?

A. When I joined Civil Services that time was different with limited options. Today people have lots of choices.

Q. Where was your first posting?

A. My training began at Kota. The city was boiling as far as crime rate is concerned. I was trained under the City SP for eight months.

Q. How was the experience?

A. At that time, I believed that a policeman should not marry because he has no time for the family.

Q. What is the basic difference in policing then and now?

A. Methods definitely change. Scientific input has increased now. Laws have changed. There was neither SC/ST law nor any specific provision for women related crime. This change has come over a period. Laws have been introduced for social change. Gradually, number of laws have increased and so did the perspective.

Q. How can police become people friendly?

A. People appreciate when police officers work sincerely. They should feel that the police have been working seriously. The best way is to work closely with people.

Q. What was the most thrilling posting in your 36- year long career?

A. Unless there is a challenge, there is no thrill or satisfaction. I had different experience in Sawai Madhopur. We used to patrol Daang area during nights. Whenever we used to reach a particular point we would come to know that a gang was there the previous day. When I was DIG in Jaipur, I handled a large number of law and order issues. There was no loss to life or property in five years. Sumedha Durlabhji case was the most high profile in which the entire team worked brilliantly. 

Q. Is your appointment as the Chief of Anti-Corruption Unit (ACU) of the BCCI linked to your work in ACB?

A. BCCI needed someone. Present head Neeraj Kumar’s three-year term is coming to an end. I expressed my interest and got selected. The real answer to this question must be asked to the BCCI.

Q. How did you feel after taking charge?

A. I had no intention of taking up a job after retirement. But, this was of a different kind. Besides, I have some interest in sports and Hindustan is a cricket loving nation. So, there was some attraction.

Q. There was some controversy regarding your appointment. Perhaps a member did not sign.

A. I am told that a committee was formed headed by former Chief Justice Lodha Sahab. The committee gave its recommendation, subsequently the Supreme Court constituted another committee under the chairmanship of Vinod Rai that looks after BCCI’s administration. It is quite natural when someone is removed from the post but I am not aware about the basic politics behind this.

Q. Will the matter go to court?

A. They are free to do whatever they want. The court’s order will be acceptable.

Q. What is the basic mandate of BCCI?

A. Promote the game. Bring in professionalism in state associations and cricket tournaments.

Q. Why there is so much image crisis in the BCCI?

A. It is considered to be a very powerful post. Cricket is like religion in India because of which there is so much of visibility. A lot of people try to get the post hence the rivalry.

Q. Is the BCCI successful in its mandate?

A. I have worked for only two days. The public image of BCCI may not be good but their work to promote the game is exceptional.

Q. Corruption and match fixing have created image crisis?

A. The BCCI itself is not involved in match fixing. Anyone can be involved in match fixing. The BCCI’s role gets in when an officer or a player is compromised. Then, the BCCI investigates and takes action.

Q. How would you break the nexus of corrupt players, bookies and crime syndicate?

A. The ACU’s job is Intelligence Collection. If a feedback is received about a player or an official’s involvement then there is an internal mechanism. What are the evidences against them, then those evidences are put across the disciplinary committee. After that a decision is taken on the basis of those evidences whether the accused has to be banned, fined or suspended. For this, it is necessary to have communication with the BCCI and the police because the latter is also an Investigating/enforcement agency. We can keep only internal vigilance. The BCCI has very tough code of conduct. If they are complied with, the problem can be curbed. Since, there is huge money involved in betting, those wanting to invest money would do something or other. This is a cat and mouse game that will go on. What we have to ensure is that players and officials maintain their integrity.

Q. Justice Lodha had said that betting should be legalised. What is your view?

A. It is up to the government. If it wants, it can be regulated. But, will legalising betting stop match fixing? Because match fixing is all about winning the match. Hence, this is not pure gambling which is just a matter of chance. So, we want to reduce that element of chance. Even after legalising betting there will be possibility of fixers trying to fix the match.

Q. How much infrastructure or manpower do you have?

A. See as far as infrastructure is concerned we have Integrity officers in the team. Like these days IPL is going on, we have attached Integrity officer with every team. Also, there are security liaison officers whose job overlaps with Integrity officers. Besides, man power from other security agencies is also involved whose basic job is to check who is meeting whom. They have a list of the BCCI suspects with their background.They keep an eye on the suspects and if there is a lead they inform the police.

Q. The BCCI has not implemented Lodha committee’s recommendation? Will they be implemented?

A. There is no question of non-implementation. Supreme Court’s order will be implemented, though it may take some time.

Q. The Supreme Court has said that no minister or any government servant should be office bearer of BCCI? Has it been implemented?

A. It is in the process. The report has been submitted to the SC. Some have been implemented some not. There is something about age limit also that there can’t be any office bearer beyond 70 years of age…how long would be the term …is also to be decided…the constitution is also to be finalised…process is on… but has not been implemented yet.

Q. How would you perform the job given the political interference and political influence in cricket?

A. It is being said that there is a political interference everywhere. You would find people who say this. But in my 36 years as government officer, I never came under any political pressure. We say these things as excuse to avoid work or unpleasant decisions because when you are in administration, some of your decisions may not be liked by your subordinates, some may not be in favour of influential people. Then, just to avoid them you take an excuse of political interference.

Q. What special precautions are in place for the IPL this time?

A. The BCCI’s code of conduct is strict and covers everyone including players, umpires, ground staff and managers. We will ensure that this is being properly adhered with and action will be taken if something is wrong.

Q. How do you view recent ball tampering case of Australia?

A. This is not new. When I was student there was controversy of applying Vaseline to the ball to change its swing. This type of element can be found in sports. But, now surveillance system is so strong that each and every frame is clearly captured in camera, this is what happened with the Australian players. Even then, if someone does it, he is taking a big risk.

Q. Here the IPL will also get affected as those players won’t come?

A. They won’t come. That is why the code of conduct is in place…this is also the code of conduct of the ICC. If they have destroyed the sanctity of the game then they should not come.

Q. Do you also think as a common citizen that all these laws of BCCI or ICC are just on papers….despite them, such incidents happen?

A. There are high stakes involved for bookies. They operate within and outside the country. To earn their profit they try to influence players and officials. The BCCI must try to stop players and officials from getting influenced. And, if anyone gets into it, strict action should be taken.

Q. There is talk of it being controlled from Dubai especially the D factor.

A. It comes from Dubai. It is said that bookies are based out there. Many other factors are mentioned. We have to ensure strong internal mechanism and keep it in order. Many leagues not authorised by the BCCI are organised in which reports of betting from Dubai are received and money also gets exchanged. The BCCI can stop these by restraining its players from participating in such leagues.

Q. There is a penal provision; would you like to enhance it to make punishment harsher?

A. BCCI is not an enforcement agency. It can fine or ban. If a person is banned for life what more can be done.

Q. Rajasthan Royals and Chennai Super Kings have returned after two years?

A. Their enquiry has been completed. Those involved have been removed. Now, why do you want other players to suffer for someone else’s fault? And, I fully believe that Rajasthan Royals and Chennai Super Kings will prove their goodwill.

Q. Your suggestions for promotion of cricket in rural areas?

A. Many leagues in rural areas are unauthorised. They mislead people and charge fee. BCCI gives lot of aid for sports development in rural areas through state associations. The only control the BCCI has over state associations is that if the aid is not properly utilised, it can hold the next instalment.

Q. Sports minister Rajyawardhan Singh Rathore is trying to promote sports other than cricket. What is the future?

A. Cricket is dominant because India has dominance in the world in this game. Cricket gives us an opportunity to be proud of in other countries. Badminton has good fan following now. Football is also gaining popularity.

Q. Do you think Modi as PM is emerging as a global leader?

A. The way he is getting importance abroad  with foreign leaders paying attention to him, definitely he is emerging as a global leader.

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