Doval was speaking at the 21st Lalit Doshi Memorial Award function at YB Chavan auditorium at Churchgate.
National Security Advisor (NSA) to prime minister Narendra Modi, Ajit Doval on Tuesday denied the perception among some people that India executed Yakub Memon because it couldn't get his elder brother Tiger, the 1993 blasts mastermind.
Doval was speaking at the 21st Lalit Doshi Memorial Award function at YB Chavan auditorium at Churchgate.
"It is completely wrong. It is true that India should bring Tiger... (But) Their inter-linkage is not correct," said Doval.
He also said that when he was in Mumbai, last Thursday, he received a tweet of an important leader saying "state-sponsored killings, diminishes all, reducing us to murderers". "I would say that when state acts in a way which is judicial, fair, through due process of law and not for furtherance and vested interest, its actions are totally correct and they are not murderers and does not reduce you to the level of murderers," he added.
When asked why, despite being a huge nation, we can't handle a threat by Dawood, Doval said, "Convertibility of power is not always possible. If there is a threat from Pakistan and China, we can take it on, but our army is not for a fugitive sitting in Pakistan under the protection of intelligence."
After 9/11, addressing US Congress, president Bush said America values its freedom, but should it come in conflict with the interest of the state, the interests will prevail, he added.
"This dilemma comes when coercive instrumentalities are exercised. Even the scriptures have addressed it and come to their own conclusions. The objectives of the two sets of values (personal and state) are different. Value system of the state is to protect society and coming generations. Whatever you sacrifice for the service of the state is good.
"States have not always been fair and correct. Sometime they have been tyrannical. That is the second cause for conflict. Real power is exercised by those who run the state. What matters is they are also human beings and carry their own prejudices. Therefore, the dilemma arises," Doval said.
"There have been extreme views about the morality of the state. You cannot say that someone has the freedom to carry out a terrorist act but the state does not have the right to use its coercive instruments to deny him his life.
The state has to protect itself. Individual morality cannot be inflicted on the larger interest of society. Days of statecraft through war are coming to an end. There is no guarantee that a powerful nation will be able to subdue a small group of terrorists. New instruments of statecraft are evolving."
Asked about the 'embarrassment' caused to the Indian ambassador and Sushma Swaraj when he spoke directly to his Pakistani counterpart Sartaz Aziz post Ufa, after the cross-border firing, Doval said, "When at Ufa, it was agreed that there will be no border firing. (But) Pakistanis started firing; it was necessary to tell them, without any further loss of time, to stop or we would retaliate with effect. This message was passed on to our high commissioner in Islamabad and high commissioner of Pakistan here at 7.05am. When there is immediacy, you do not consider who is talking to whom."
The event also saw other senior IPS officers, including Rakesh Maria, Deven Bharti, Sanjeev Dayal and Vivek Phansalkar, in attendance.
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